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  • Squiffle
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    Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

    Originally posted by Massmurder View Post
    In the wiki it claims the veteran level when attacking someone of higher or lower veteran level is what gives the damage boost and mitigation reduction?
    Link, please ?
    The wonderful thing about the wiki is that anyone can fix things that are wrong, but it has thousands of pages, so a post saying "the wiki says X" is not very helpful...

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  • Allwyn
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    Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

    Just one small thing to highlight... the Tier 1 classes need some changes....for eg.

    1 )Last stand lvl 1 : +300 health, increases counter damage by 15 dmg + 10% of attack damage (req. last defender) (15 damage is like nothing when some ghost hits you for high shots.)

    2) Juggernaut : increase proc rate or the percentage on level 2 or 3.

    UWE_Duke: I understand players want the tier 1 classes rebalanced to be competitive in the current state of the game. I also agree on that. However it is difficult to push something like this as a developer. As a core thing in our game, this needs to be handled correctly and once it's done tier 1 class should be as balanced as tier 2. That takes long design time. While the game is still in a transitional mode, i do not think we will do this very soon. But it's on the list for sure.
    Last edited by UWE_Duke; 12-22-2016, 03:29 PM.

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  • socool
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    Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

    Thanks Duke for the fast response and your care to us players

    8. Are those damage LT work for building ? ( Hyena, Agent O ).

    UWE_Duke:
    List of LTs works for everything (building/counter/splash): Reaper/Hyena/Vigilante/Gman/Midas/Red Countess/Poppy
    List of LTs works for building: Backfire/Dozer
    List of LTs works for counter: Bulldog
    List of LTs works for splash: MorningStar/Rocket/Valkyrie/Whiplash

    All the rest LTs not mentioned above and saying they are buffing damage (always or chance/situation based), are for the main target only.

    My question : Reaper/Gman ability is the same as Hyena ? ( Piercing damage & Add up to x % damage) ? Since you mentioned they work for everything.

    UWE_Duke: They are not exactly the same power, because Hyena is conditionally/partially giving damage%, but the damage % given by hyena is no different from Reaper's, just one more step to calculate the % from player attack and defense. (Including both white and green text in stats page).

    Side question : I want to know about the ability of Agent O ( Increase % damage on Non Crit hits) , does it work for counter damage ( I am a defender and receive a non-crit hit, would the counter damage increase with Agent O ability ? ).

    UWE_Duke: If you don't see an LT in the overall bonus category nor in the counter damage category, he/she/it doesn't buff the counter damage. Same logic for splash.
    Last edited by UWE_Duke; 12-22-2016, 03:17 PM.

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  • socool
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    Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

    Originally posted by alexian View Post
    Great work, Duke, thank you for answering all the questions.


    I have also one, regarding to counterdamage. unfortunately I don't find the original post to make a quote, but I think you said almost only Bulldog increases counterdamage. Is there other way to increase counterdamage, including lts like Hyena, GMan or any other damage lt or even the extra + 5% damage from rank 27? (other than the obvious get stonger, put your stats in attack).

    Found it:
    "4. Counter damage is a % of base damage you can do to the attacker, just doesn't include any active skill/LT bonus except for a few like Bulldog. "
    Duke said that only bulldog ability is affecting counter damage, there are other LTs that ability that can affects many things at once ( Counter damage, damage dealing, building damage ) : Reaper , Midas, Hyena , Gman, Red Countress, Poppy.

    UWE_Duke: This is correct.
    Last edited by UWE_Duke; 12-22-2016, 03:04 PM.

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  • alexian
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    Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

    Great work, Duke, thank you for answering all the questions.


    I have also one, regarding to counterdamage. unfortunately I don't find the original post to make a quote, but I think you said almost only Bulldog increases counterdamage. Is there other way to increase counterdamage, including lts like Hyena, GMan or any other damage lt or even the extra + 5% damage from rank 27? (other than the obvious get stonger, put your stats in attack).

    Found it:
    "4. Counter damage is a % of base damage you can do to the attacker, just doesn't include any active skill/LT bonus except for a few like Bulldog. "

    UWE_Duke: Base damage can be increased by reaper/hyena and etc. that's why counter damage also benefit from those LTs. I was not very explicit about "a few". I'll reword that entry.
    Last edited by UWE_Duke; 12-22-2016, 03:08 PM.

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  • alexian
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    Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

    Great work, Duke, thank you for answering all the questions.


    I have also one, regarding to counterdamage. unfortunately I don't find the original post to make a quote, but I think you said only Bulldog increases counterdamage. Is there no other way to increase counterdamage, including lts like Hyena, GMan or any other damage lt or even the extra + 5% damage from rank 27? (other than the obvious get stonger, put your stats in attack).
    Last edited by UWE_Duke; 12-22-2016, 03:00 PM.

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  • Xcali1985
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    Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

    Originally posted by Quaranj View Post
    Christmas came a little early this year!

    Seriously, after feeling like we've been waiting a long time for the devs to throw us a bone on these longstanding questions, you have just served up a buffet here!

    I am in awe.

    Thank you so much!!!!
    It's unreal, I almost feel like we have been the blind leading the blind. So many different things were thrown around.

    Duke I have a question.

    What is piercing?

    I remember being told that it was damage that couldn't be mitigated by any skills so essential damage that bypasses all skills.

    Can you verify this? Once again appreciate the extra effort answering questions, I think it will take the load off later when forum members can assist with these questions when new comers arrive.

    UWE_Duke: Piercing is just a name for the skill. It doesn't do anything special. The name was chosen I believe because it was so special when Reaper first came out as an event LT. But lieterally many LTs have the same power now, just number is lower.

    Also, adding a section into the help screen for LT skills with a description for them to scroll through would be awesome.
    Last edited by UWE_Duke; 12-22-2016, 07:59 AM. Reason: Answer Questions.

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  • Quaranj
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    Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

    Christmas came a little early this year!

    Seriously, after feeling like we've been waiting a long time for the devs to throw us a bone on these longstanding questions, you have just served up a buffet here!

    I am in awe.

    Thank you so much!!!!

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  • Massmurder
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    Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

    In the wiki it claims the veteran level when attacking someone of higher or lower veteran level is what gives the damage boost and mitigation reduction?

    Also in regards to the change in mitigation multiplicative effects. Does that mean damage boosts are multiplicative or straight additions?

    Say, 9*hyena(20%)+ 9* vice (20%)+ 9* Dozer (10*) if demoing.

    Would it be 100(base damage) + 20(hyena) + 20(vice) + 10(Dozer) for 150 total.

    100+20(base+hyena)= 120+24(new base+vice) = 144+14.4(newer base+Dozer)=158.4?

    It may be a dumb question but curious

    UWE_Duke: For damage, same power, for example Reaper/Hyena/Countess and etc, are additive. Different powers are multiplicative. So it is easy to see if you have 5 LTs with 10% damage bonus but having different power (1.1*1.1*1.1*1.1*1.1 - 1 = 61%), is better than 5 LTs with same % but having same power (10% * 5 = 50%).
    There could be infinite questions about different combinations, but if you know this rule, you can calculate your benefits better.
    Last edited by UWE_Duke; 12-22-2016, 05:58 AM. Reason: Answer Questions.

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  • GQuest
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    Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

    Originally posted by DFish View Post
    Thank you very much! I always wondered about veteran level.
    I always thought veteran level increased your chance powers as well. Is Lady Luck the only way to increase chance powers then?

    UWE_Duke: No veteran doesn't increase chance powers. Lady Luck is the only one I know of to increase that.
    Last edited by UWE_Duke; 12-22-2016, 05:55 AM. Reason: Answer Questions.

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  • Psycho
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    Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

    Where's Poppy??

    UWE_Duke: Thank you for pointing this out. Poppy has the same skill as Red Countess, I updated this above.

    UWE_Duke:
    List of LTs works for everything (building/counter/splash): Reaper/Hyena/Vigilante/Gman/Red Countess/Midas
    List of LTs works for building: Backfire/Dozer
    List of LTs works for counter: Bulldog
    List of LTs works for splash: MorningStar/Rocket/Valkyrie/Whiplash
    Last edited by UWE_Duke; 12-22-2016, 01:07 AM. Reason: Answer Question

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  • DFish
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    Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

    Thank you very much! I always wondered about veteran level.

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  • ༒Lux༒
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    Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

    You guys r doing a very good job so far and it's only been a couple days thank you for the responses to all these mysteries...

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    Re: To the Dev : Please help us clarify these following game mystery if possible

    Answers very much appreciated.
    Originally posted by UWE_Duke View Post
    Questions Answered.

    Thanks,

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  • UWE_Duke
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    Re: To the Dev : Please help us clarify these following game mystery if possible

    Questions Answered.

    Thanks,

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