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  • #46
    Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

    This is probably a dumb question but what is the 'white number' mentioned by duke. See below:

    Base damage is calculated based off of: your base attack (white number), your attack power, defender's base defense (white number), defender's defense power.

    I think it would be great to be able to see what my toon's base damage is along attack/def power. How does the crit/crit damage/damage from the class page factor into all of this?

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    • #47
      Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

      Originally posted by dvs187 View Post
      This is probably a dumb question but what is the 'white number' mentioned by duke. See below:

      Base damage is calculated based off of: your base attack (white number), your attack power, defender's base defense (white number), defender's defense power.

      I think it would be great to be able to see what my toon's base damage is along attack/def power. How does the crit/crit damage/damage from the class page factor into all of this?
      Like what you quoted from my answer, your base damage is subject to change based on your strength and ALSO target's strength, so even if I give you a number it won't be accurate and doesn't really mean much.

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      • #48
        Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

        Got it... thanks!

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        • #49
          Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

          @UW_Duke

          In a boss fight, is a "Lieutenant Critical" different than a "Critical Hit"? Are they both generated by your crit chance %? Do the lts that you have play any part in the "Lieutenant Critical"?

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          • #50
            Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

            Originally posted by Guy View Post
            @UW_Duke

            In a boss fight, is a "Lieutenant Critical" different than a "Critical Hit"? Are they both generated by your crit chance %? Do the lts that you have play any part in the "Lieutenant Critical"?
            If I remember it right, LT Crit is only based on how many different LTs you have, not related to your crit chance.

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            • #51
              Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

              This question ( among others) has been asked so many times before. Thank u Duke for finally giving us an answer to this. Cant state enough what an important job u do here.

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              • #52
                Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

                i had a question about twinkie lt.
                how does it work if the target has 1800health and 800 armor and my precise blade on that target is 900. how much damage will i do to the target when twinkie procs?.

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                • #53
                  Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

                  It was answered in the thread when the crate was released. You do 400 armor damage + 400 armor damage from Twinkie + 500 health damage.
                  48BE8B

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                  • #54
                    Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

                    Originally posted by alexian View Post
                    It was answered in the thread when the crate was released. You do 400 armor damage + 400 armor damage from Twinkie + 500 health damage.
                    thanks

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                    • #55
                      Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

                      I've searched the forums, all the way back to the beginning of time, but I can't seem to find how critical damage is calculated in boss fights.

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                      • #56
                        Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

                        What's the difference between +X% Critical (e.g. Pain) and +X% Critical Damage (e.g. Miss Conduct)? Which is more useful?

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                        • #57
                          Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

                          X% crit is the chance to do critical hit. X% crits dmg is the % increase in a dmg which a crit hit does.
                          Imo a chance to do more critical hits with a small crit dmg boost is a good option.
                          If you are playing ghost class then crit dmg would be more important and if playing sniper then crit chance boost would be better.
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                          • #58
                            Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

                            I had a question about Lady Luck. I thought I had seen another thread that her code was perhaps a bit messed up, or something like that, but I can't find it, so I'm not sure how easy this question is to answer or if it is even answerable.

                            What I gather with her is she simply adds (not multiplies) to a lieutenant chance power. E.g., Trix has a 0.6% chance to proc, but my 4* Lady Luck "should" add 2.5% to that to give a 3.1% chance for Trix to proc, if I have them seated together. At least that's what I assumed the whole time. Pretty big change there. (Not so big when, say, the chance was 50% to splash, and she turns it into 52.5%).

                            The question I really have is this: does she also add to skill chance powers? So at Hot Shot 3, I have a 3% chance at the start of a war to get Hot Shot, but if Lady Luck is seated at the start of war, does she increase that to 5.5%? And similarly, does she affect active skills as well?

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                            • #59
                              Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

                              Originally posted by Andy_CO View Post
                              I had a question about Lady Luck. I thought I had seen another thread that her code was perhaps a bit messed up, or something like that, but I can't find it, so I'm not sure how easy this question is to answer or if it is even answerable.

                              What I gather with her is she simply adds (not multiplies) to a lieutenant chance power. E.g., Trix has a 0.6% chance to proc, but my 4* Lady Luck "should" add 2.5% to that to give a 3.1% chance for Trix to proc, if I have them seated together. At least that's what I assumed the whole time. Pretty big change there. (Not so big when, say, the chance was 50% to splash, and she turns it into 52.5%).

                              The question I really have is this: does she also add to skill chance powers? So at Hot Shot 3, I have a 3% chance at the start of a war to get Hot Shot, but if Lady Luck is seated at the start of war, does she increase that to 5.5%? And similarly, does she affect active skills as well?
                              0.6% + 2.5% is a perfect example why Lady Luck design was BAD. I can tell you that the existing code doesn't give you 2.5% bonus. Lady Luck power was tuned down when the base % is low. I think it is safe to say Lady Luck skill is still a very great power, but not crazy OP. Problem is the description cannot be simplified to reflect her real power. And I don't want to be the index to answer every question about her. She's been like this forever, so not my first priority to sort her out, that means, she is as fine as is for now.

                              I want to give some guidelines for understanding Lady Luck, I could be wrong as there are too many factors:
                              1. Some common used skills are buffed by her power normally (without discount): Frank, Layla, Gunslinger, Crit %, Dodge %, Attack/Defense Power fluctuation %. And most chance based LT powers, if % is not too small.
                              2. If you see some LT has less than 5% to proc at 9*, Lady Luck contribution is most likely tuned down.
                              3. Overkill and Whiplash proc chance are not buffed by Lady Luck.
                              4. Non-cloneable chance based LTs are most likely not working with Lady Luck buff. For example Siri.

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                              • #60
                                Re: [Answered] Please help us clarify these following game mystery

                                Originally posted by UWE_Duke View Post
                                0.6% + 2.5% is a perfect example why Lady Luck design was BAD. I can tell you that the existing code doesn't give you 2.5% bonus. Lady Luck power was tuned down when the base % is low. I think it is safe to say Lady Luck skill is still a very great power, but not crazy OP. Problem is the description cannot be simplified to reflect her real power. And I don't want to be the index to answer every question about her. She's been like this forever, so not my first priority to sort her out, that means, she is as fine as is for now.

                                I want to give some guidelines for understanding Lady Luck, I could be wrong as there are too many factors:
                                1. Some common used skills are buffed by her power normally (without discount): Frank, Layla, Gunslinger, Crit %, Dodge %, Attack/Defense Power fluctuation %. And most chance based LT powers, if % is not too small.
                                2. If you see some LT has less than 5% to proc at 9*, Lady Luck contribution is most likely tuned down.
                                3. Overkill and Whiplash proc chance are not buffed by Lady Luck.
                                4. Non-cloneable chance based LTs are most likely not working with Lady Luck buff. For example Siri.
                                Thanks Duke, but this is really demoralizing to find out she really doesn't work on all chance powers like I feel she should. I thought in the past she was really strong and I seat her all the time, now it looks as if that has been a waste of a seat for me.

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