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Energy or Stamina? A Leveling Guide

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  • Energy or Stamina? A Leveling Guide

    Hey guys, this started as a thought I had on whether I should invest more in Energy or Stamina. After thinking about it for about an hour and doing the math, I decided to make this post to let everyone else know about what I had thought up. I'm not sure if someone else has already done this though.

    The first thing I did was go through all the Jobs to see which one gave the most XP per Energy. After doing all the ratios and averages,
    Area 2's The Shakedown had the highest overall.

    Job Title: XP gained / Energy Spent = XP per Energy
    The Shakedown: 7/6~9/6 = 1.17~1.5 = 1.33 avg.

    Then, I got the average for XP per Stamina.
    Stamina: 1/1~4/1 = 1~4 = 2.5 XP per Stamina.

    Now that might make you think you can level up faster from stamina, but keep reading.

    Next, I figured how many skill points I earned each week. I go up about 1 level per day, and complete about 1 Job per day.(Higher areas suck :P)
    From that, I worked out that I gain around 42 skill points per week.

    1 level * 5 skill points * 7 Days + 1 job * 1 skill point * 7 Days = 42 skill points

    The next thing I had to do was calculate the amount of XP I would get for each if I put all 42 into one or the other.

    42 Energy * 1.33 XP per Energy = 55.86 XP
    21 Stamina(2 skill points per) * 2.5 XP per Stamina = 52.5 XP

    So that shows that I should put more Skill Points into Energy right? Wrong. After doing this, I remembered that both of them were based on averages and so I worked out the same thing using each possible outcome.

    Energy:
    42 Energy * 1.17 XP per Energy = 49.14 XP
    42 Energy * 1.33 XP per Energy = 55.86 XP
    42 Energy * 1.5 XP per Energy = 63 XP

    Stamina:
    21 Stamina * 1 XP Per Energy = 21 XP
    21 Stamina * 2 XP Per Stamina = 42 XP
    21 Stamina * 3 XP Per Stamina = 63 XP
    21 Stamina * 4 XP Per Stamina = 84 XP

    Now with those values in mind, I have a 33% chance of getting any of the values for energy and a 25% chance for each value of Stamina. However, since I'm wondering which one would be best for me, I can group the values for stamina into 2 50% chance blocks.

    Energy: 33% chance of either 49.14 or 55.86 or 63 XP
    Stamina: 50% chance of either 21-42 or 63-84 XP

    Energy: 66% chance of less than 60 XP
    Stamina: 50% chance of less than 60 XP(and all Energy values)

    In other words, I have a 50% chance of doing as well or better with stamina than energy and a 50% chance of doing worse.

    In conclusion, energy is a safer way to go, but if you want to gamble, stamina is for you .
    Last edited by -John-; 10-13-2013, 09:41 PM. Reason: Typos

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    Re: Energy or Stamina? A Leveling Guide

    Good job. I love stats. A couple of things for you to think about:

    Seating the Penelope LT will boost your energy returns significantly. You 7/6 - 9/6 for The Shakedown go up to 8/6 - 10/6. Find Leads actually ends up with the highest return of 3/2.

    The returns on stamina aren't 25% each. It's actually weighted towards the lower returns. Expected return is about 2XP per stamina.

    You should stick with averages, because everything you did after that is just muddying the correct expected return.

    If all you're thinking about is levelling speed (there are trade offs you have to make), then I've found that energy is better than stamina. With Penelope seated you can get a guaranteed 1.5XP/SP return on energy. The average return on stamina is 1XP/SP, if not slightly more (but nowhere near 1.5).

    What do you think?
    41C723

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    • #3
      Re: Energy or Stamina? A Leveling Guide

      Nice post bra, respect

      Ps: Good to see the positivity back in almost full force

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        Re: Energy or Stamina? A Leveling Guide

        Hmm, I didn't know returns for stamina were weighted, in game it always seemed pretty even to me. And I didn't even think about using Penelope, I really should have included her.

        You should stick with averages, because everything you did after that is just muddying the correct expected return.
        I definitely agree with you there, but because there's definitely luck involved no matter what you choose, I wanted to break it down to show all the possibilities.

        ...I've found that energy is better than stamina.
        I currently have 507 Energy and 279 Stamina(When I first started, I put just about everything into attack), and for the past 75 levels I get the XP bar halfway before I run out. However, when I was putting everything into energy, it started to slow down and I wasn't getting quite that far. Now that I've started putting everything into stamina, I've caught back up and gone a bit past halfway.

        It was the complete opposite before this though, so mine seems to fluctuate(or maybe I'm just really lucky ).

        Haha, if only stamina didn't cost 2 SP.

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        • #5
          Re: Energy or Stamina? A Leveling Guide

          http://underworldempireforums.com/sh...t-are-the-Odds
          41C723

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          • #6
            Re: Energy or Stamina? A Leveling Guide

            Great Guide, I would always do energy, but if your a boss killer, stamina is for youz!


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            • #7
              Re: Energy or Stamina? A Leveling Guide

              Or you could spam Slums dice to star up Penelope ASAP

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