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  • Epic threshold too high or points too low

    I was hoping this update would include more points when attacking enforcer sub bosses. Almost no difference when using a sniper which is the preferred class or an assassin. Normal or class hits it doesn't matter. Attacking an enforcer is a waste of stamina. For the same 40 hit you can get 1500 points vs a sniper or only 400 vs an enforcer??

    My other issue is illuminati epic loot threshold is way too high compared to the number of people who can actually obtain enough points to get one. I think maybe 15 people can get 1 epic and there is like 90 positions
    Discuss 😄

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    Re: Epic threshold too high or points too low

    I don't think the Illuminati epic limit is gonna change

    We'll be taking a look at potentially rebalancing boss/classes in the near future but couldn't squeeze it in before the update came out. The good news is that kind of rebalancing shouldn't require another client update so you'll get the fixed system (if a fix is deemed appropriate) as soon as it's ready

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      Re: Epic threshold too high or points too low

      Good to hear rebalancing points rewarded would help greatly across all bosses. As it is now people burn FP on the phases that give the most points and people who let thier stamina regen are left holding the bag vs heavy/enforcers and struggle to hit even the 1 epic threshold.

      Maybe the treshold won't seem to bad if that is fixed. Still not great though unless the idea is to limit how many people get some items though ie Sara parts. The skulls bosses and illuminati seem to have a greater disparity in this area than the job related bosses

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        Re: Epic threshold too high or points too low

        With bosses like Illuminate why can 90 people join if only 5-10 or so get an epic. Shouldn't most of the players get at least 1 epic? what's the point of fighting those hard bosses if epics are so hard to get if you don't use fp. In my clan people are very active in boss fights, but because of this only 4-7 people made the epic threshold and most of those are the ones who use fp.
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        • #5
          Re: Epic threshold too high or points too low

          That thing on enforcers giving less points is something we can address

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          • #6
            Re: Epic threshold too high or points too low

            Addressing that would definitely help if it increases the total points available to be earned on a boss.

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            • #7
              Re: Epic threshold too high or points too low

              Originally posted by Artanis View Post
              That thing on enforcers giving less points is something we can address
              It really should be addressed Artanis, as soon as possible! You (devs) said that preferred class against Enforcers is Sniper. Well, as a sniper, I'm doing minimal damage to Enforcers in boss battles. For example, a 10 stamina hit on an Enforcer will net me around 200 points. On the other hand, a 10 stamina hit on an Assassin will net me around 450 points. Now, no one wants to fight Enforcers in boss battles, and the people that do are getting far less points than they should have.

              On the other hand, epic threshold is an EPIC threshold. That's why those items are Epic, they are hard to come by. But, I will agree that a slight re-balancing should be made.

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              • #8
                Re: Epic threshold too high or points too low

                The Illumianti threshold isnt the problem, can be achieved without spending in theory. The Phoenix thresholds are simply too high. 50k for the chance of 1 epicand 100k for 2 epics.. you can not achieve this points without spending tons of FP. I hope this going to be adjusted, otherwise it would be an introduction of a 2 class boss fighting system, where some bosses are simply untouchable.

                To compare with castle age: the new generation monster there need a lot lower dmg done, around 12mill for the nwest geeration (can be compared to 20k pts here) for the maximum of loot.

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                • #9
                  Re: Epic threshold too high or points too low

                  Anyone else think that threshold for Red Phoenix Clan is kinda excessive?


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                  • #10
                    Re: Epic threshold too high or points too low

                    Originally posted by AnalOverload View Post
                    Anyone else think that threshold for Red Phoenix Clan is kinda excessive?
                    Yes, me

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                    • #11
                      Re: Epic threshold too high or points too low

                      illuminati's epic lmit is fine normally the top 20 people get epics, top 5-10 get at least 2...
                      youre not putting out enough stamina

                      the enforcer pts limit definitely needs to be addressed tho nobody attacks enforcers...
                      it makes some bosses ridiculous

                      Originally posted by AnalOverload View Post
                      Anyone else think that threshold for Red Phoenix Clan is kinda excessive?
                      this however i cant say yet as i havent completed one yet
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                      • #12
                        Re: Epic threshold too high or points too low

                        Originally posted by Alper View Post
                        TThe Phoenix thresholds are simply too high. 50k for the chance of 1 epicand 100k for 2 epics.. you can not achieve this points without spending tons of FP. I hope this going to be adjusted, otherwise it would be an introduction of a 2 class boss fighting system, where some bosses are simply untouchable.
                        WOW! 50k for 1 epic, 100k for two? Is this true? Now, with 40+k pts i wont get any epics? That is really excessive. I cant see lower sta player getting any epics from Phoenix in near future. This must be re-balanced.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Epic threshold too high or points too low

                          thresholds will be tweaked soon. the intent was for players to actually have to do epic damage contribution on a boss to get an epic item, but we agree it may be a bit unattainable on some stronger bosses.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Epic threshold too high or points too low

                            Not sure if it was just insanely lucky or if Phoenix threshold is different than what you guys said. Did 23.3k dmg. Got 2 epics. None that I needed though

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                            • #15
                              Re: Epic threshold too high or points too low

                              Nvm, Airmid fixed the threshold.
                              Last edited by AnalOverload; 03-06-2013, 01:24 AM. Reason: Because Airmid is Awsome


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