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  • #16
    Re: What happened to ES?

    Originally posted by Archaic View Post
    Both you and Tony are idiots. Simple as that.

    Blue was saying you are scared of too many losses on ES record. All you ES weirdos hold that empire to some special standard that in reality doesn't exist. This is also why you would not allow the empire to continue operating with ES members and ES2 members. You were afraid of ES becoming a second rate empire (exactly as Blue stated) and decided to retire it.

    The latter part of his statement is pretty clear. ES merged with AF to try and compete with Chosen and "try to stay on top"

    Your goodie goodie gang should seriously contemplate playing dragonvale.
    Keep in mind which forum section you're in when you post Archaic. This is not the War & Politics section, consider this your first warning. If you're as intelligent as you believe you are, you can express yourself without resorting to naming people "idiots."

    Second, as Blue was referring directly to the people who merged with ES, it clearly has nothing to do with the choice to shut the empire down that came later. ES players "merged" with AF well before the decision to shut the empire down came to fruition. Please refrain from baseless statements in the future Archaic.
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    • #17
      Re: What happened to ES?

      Originally posted by Paul View Post
      Keep in mind which forum section you're in when you post Archaic. This is not the War & Politics section, consider this your first warning. If you're as intelligent as you believe you are, you can express yourself without resorting to naming people "idiots."

      Second, as Blue was referring directly to the people who merged with ES, it clearly has nothing to do with the choice to shut the empire down that came later. ES players "merged" with AF well before the decision to shut the empire down came to fruition. Please refrain from baseless statements in the future Archaic.
      It's people like you that ruin player experience. You are a moron and I can call you that if I wish because it is true. In no way does calling someone an "idiot" or a "moron" violate TOS. They say those words in PG and G movies. The fact that you even threatened any sort of infraction for using the word idiot is a direct example that you have no place to be in the position you are in. This is a game rated for 12+ and warns gamers of the violent, sexual and suggestive themes.

      If I cuss at you (like the bosses do in the game) or if I use derogatory or racist language feel free to give me an infraction but calling you stupid, an idiot, a moron is fine. Please grow up and quit hiding behind your goodie goodie 6 year old mindset and act like a grown up. You make yourself and everyone associated with you look really bad.

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      • #18
        Re: What happened to ES?

        Please search the term "idiot" there are 45 other threads with that term within them. If I get an infraction for using that term you must then go through and give every single person that has used that word an infraction.

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        • #19
          Re: What happened to ES?

          I have posted a number of times in a different thread that was moved to war and politics that I disagree with a decision that Paul made. But having discussed it at length with him for days before I posted, I firmly believe that he is not an idiot. People are going to have opinions that are sometimes polarizing and irreconcilable. That does not mean that one is right or the other is wrong. And these forums will not determine a winner either, even if we held a vote and a majority sided with one over the other. They are here so that we can have a community discussion (and get some updates/previews/answers from PA).

          And if anybody views former ES members "goody goodies" because they worked hard to stay above the fray in the game and not engage in personal attacks (and were largely, if not entirely, successful at doing so), then please bestow the same badge on me. I will gladly wear it.

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          • #20
            Re: What happened to ES?

            Originally posted by Sartori View Post
            I have posted a number of times in a different thread that was moved to war and politics that I disagree with a decision that Paul made. But having discussed it at length with him for days before I posted, I firmly believe that he is not an idiot. People are going to have opinions that are sometimes polarizing and irreconcilable. That does not mean that one is right or the other is wrong. And these forums will not determine a winner either, even if we held a vote and a majority sided with one over the other. They are here so that we can have a community discussion (and get some updates/previews/answers from PA).

            And if anybody views former ES members "goody goodies" because they worked hard to stay above the fray in the game and not engage in personal attacks (and were largely, if not entirely, successful at doing so), then please bestow the same badge on me. I will gladly wear it.
            Badge Bestowed.

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            • #21
              Re: What happened to ES?

              Originally posted by Archaic View Post
              It's people like you that ruin player experience. You are a moron and I can call you that if I wish because it is true. In no way does calling someone an "idiot" or a "moron" violate TOS. They say those words in PG and G movies. The fact that you even threatened any sort of infraction for using the word idiot is a direct example that you have no place to be in the position you are in. This is a game rated for 12+ and warns gamers of the violent, sexual and suggestive themes.

              If I cuss at you (like the bosses do in the game) or if I use derogatory or racist language feel free to give me an infraction but calling you stupid, an idiot, a moron is fine. Please grow up and quit hiding behind your goodie goodie 6 year old mindset and act like a grown up. You make yourself and everyone associated with you look really bad.
              Originally posted by Archaic View Post
              Please search the term "idiot" there are 45 other threads with that term within them. If I get an infraction for using that term you must then go through and give every single person that has used that word an infraction.
              You don't hold these forums hostage like you seem to believe you do Archaic. A verbal warning is not an infraction, I would advise you to educate yourself on how the website works before you make incorrect statements. For your reference, I will post both the forum rules as well as the ToS. Forum Rules - ToS. To help with your game and forum experience I must also make sure you are aware that the ToS only applies to in-game interactions, and the forum rules only apply to forum interactions. For your clarification, "idiot" would be considered under the forum rule of Etiquette: hateful.

              Unfortunately with such an expansive community it can be difficult to moderate all of the instances that break the rules. As such there are multiple Game Guru's who are able to make users aware of the various rules that exist on the forums. As Game Guru's we are just normal community members that volunteer our time to help out. We aren't perfect, but the end goal is to better the forums and I'd like to think that all of us have that aim in mind. The past is the past, but I would hope that as you've taken to claiming, the community is what you care about. With that in mind, how about we all work together to bring some respect back into it?

              I hope that with this new knowledge your future posting experience will be more enjoyable.
              Paul - EmpireShadows

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              • #22
                Re: What happened to ES?

                Thanks, Arch.

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                • #23
                  Re: What happened to ES?

                  Originally posted by Sartori View Post
                  Thanks, Arch.

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                  Es can and most likely will make a comeback. Watch and see. I would bet money on it. Good luck to Es
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                  • #24
                    Re: What happened to ES?

                    Originally posted by Paul View Post
                    You don't hold these forums hostage like you seem to believe you do Archaic. A verbal warning is not an infraction, I would advise you to educate yourself on how the website works before you make incorrect statements. For your reference, I will post both the forum rules as well as the ToS. Forum Rules - ToS. To help with your game and forum experience I must also make sure you are aware that the ToS only applies to in-game interactions, and the forum rules only apply to forum interactions. For your clarification, "idiot" would be considered under the forum rule of Etiquette: hateful.

                    Unfortunately with such an expansive community it can be difficult to moderate all of the instances that break the rules. As such there are multiple Game Guru's who are able to make users aware of the various rules that exist on the forums. As Game Guru's we are just normal community members that volunteer our time to help out. We aren't perfect, but the end goal is to better the forums and I'd like to think that all of us have that aim in mind. The past is the past, but I would hope that as you've taken to claiming, the community is what you care about. With that in mind, how about we all work together to bring some respect back into it?

                    I hope that with this new knowledge your future posting experience will be more enjoyable.
                    Can I pls ask two questions here .. I am asking these as you have destroyed the joy of reading this post by getting into a discussion that is not required in first place ..

                    1) why this is a point of general discussion as to what happens to or happened to ES? When every day GG move topics to 'off topic' without consulting or suggesting to reader or posters .. Why this thread is not moved to 'war n politics' or 'empire discussions', and why you being in the capacity of being a gg participating in discussion here?

                    2) if calling idiot calls for a warning then how this sentence of yours should be treated as "I would advise you to educate yourself( I took it from above)"
                    You are not using the word but you are making sure that Arch feels the same as he would have if somebody had called him an idiot..
                    You, Paul, I am sorry to say destroy my joy of reading when you do that ..

                    When playing thr role of GG, Pls put your personal agenda aside when dealing with ppl like Arch who have not been your best of friends .. I would like to see you give warning to each Tom dick and Harry who is cursing badly on 'General discussions' these days because of the cash collection at 100% and recombos in Dice jobs..havent seen a gg doing that yet .. dozens of posts there .. Pick any and you will find ppl cursing devs and PA ..

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                    • #25
                      Re: What happened to ES?

                      Originally posted by Myinbox47 View Post
                      Can I pls ask two questions here .. I am asking these as you have destroyed the joy of reading this post by getting into a discussion that is not required in first place ..

                      1) why this is a point of general discussion as to what happens to or happened to ES? When every day GG move topics to 'off topic' without consulting or suggesting to reader or posters .. Why this thread is not moved to 'war n politics' or 'empire discussions', and why you being in the capacity of being a gg participating in discussion here?

                      2) if calling idiot calls for a warning then how this sentence of yours should be treated as "I would advise you to educate yourself( I took it from above)"
                      You are not using the word but you are making sure that Arch feels the same as he would have if somebody had called him an idiot..
                      You, Paul, I am sorry to say destroy my joy of reading when you do that ..

                      When playing thr role of GG, Pls put your personal agenda aside when dealing with ppl like Arch who have not been your best of friends .. I would like to see you give warning to each Tom dick and Harry who is cursing badly on 'General discussions' these days because of the cash collection at 100% and recombos in Dice jobs..havent seen a gg doing that yet .. dozens of posts there .. Pick any and you will find ppl cursing devs and PA ..
                      I will do my best to address your post as I feel I must have miscommunicated somewhere.

                      1) The reason I've left this here was because it was a general question directed at the community about an empire of UE. Would it fit in the War & Politics thread? No, because it is neither about war, or does it have a political message attached to it. It doesn't fit the current criteria of the Empire section of the forums because that section is used for recruitment. It's not Off-Topic because it relates to UE. If things continue to get off-topic is could be moved, if it gets too heated, it could be moved. As it stands right now though, this section is the best one to house this topic.

                      2) Once again I think this is where I must have miscommunicated what I said. A verbal warning is simply me typing "this is a warning." It has no bearing on your forum account and there is no section that tracks these types of warnings. The reason I said it was to help Archaic understand that breaking the forum rules is discouraged in this section. Stating, "I advise you to educate yourself" simply is in reference to Archaic making a statement that could confuse fellow posters because of it being incorrect. I'm sorry if you took it as if I was putting down Archaic, I used that phrase as a way to say that having knowledge on a subject before you claim it to be correct is the best way to conduct yourself on these forums. If players go around stating things that are incorrect, how will players like yourself ever find the correct answers to their questions?

                      There are multiple GG's on the forums, but even still it is incredibly hard to catch every single issue that happens. As I was already in this thread before Archaic joined it, I was able to catch Archaic's mistake and try and help him become a better community member here. Just as it is hard for us to find every issue, it is also hard for forum users to see all the action that is taken by us. I assure you that it is not an issue of bias and that this was simply a case of myself already being part of this thread.

                      Thank you for being part of the forums Myinbox47, I hope you have a better posting experience in the future.
                      Paul - EmpireShadows

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                      • #26
                        Re: What happened to ES?

                        I wanted to note that ES is also off the empire retiree list and will be reopening for business in the very near future.

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                        • #27
                          Re: What happened to ES?

                          Originally posted by Paul View Post
                          I will do my best to address your post as I feel I must have miscommunicated somewhere.

                          1) The reason I've left this here was because it was a general question directed at the community about an empire of UE. Would it fit in the War & Politics thread? No, because it is neither about war, or does it have a political message attached to it. It doesn't fit the current criteria of the Empire section of the forums because that section is used for recruitment. It's not Off-Topic because it relates to UE. If things continue to get off-topic is could be moved, if it gets too heated, it could be moved. As it stands right now though, this section is the best one to house this topic.

                          2) Once again I think this is where I must have miscommunicated what I said. A verbal warning is simply me typing "this is a warning." It has no bearing on your forum account and there is no section that tracks these types of warnings. The reason I said it was to help Archaic understand that breaking the forum rules is discouraged in this section. Stating, "I advise you to educate yourself" simply is in reference to Archaic making a statement that could confuse fellow posters because of it being incorrect. I'm sorry if you took it as if I was putting down Archaic, I used that phrase as a way to say that having knowledge on a subject before you claim it to be correct is the best way to conduct yourself on these forums. If players go around stating things that are incorrect, how will players like yourself ever find the correct answers to their questions?

                          There are multiple GG's on the forums, but even still it is incredibly hard to catch every single issue that happens. As I was already in this thread before Archaic joined it, I was able to catch Archaic's mistake and try and help him become a better community member here. Just as it is hard for us to find every issue, it is also hard for forum users to see all the action that is taken by us. I assure you that it is not an issue of bias and that this was simply a case of myself already being part of this thread.

                          Thank you for being part of the forums Myinbox47, I hope you have a better posting experience in the future.
                          Thanks Paul .. Though I don't agree with all of the things you put in to answer my question, but I do appreciate that you take out time on this and clarified your stand .. I can live with that as it is not nexessary to have two diff point of opinions .. But trying help each other understanding the pop is what we need and you have done that .. So thanks again ..

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                          • #28
                            Re: What happened to ES?

                            ES is back open. Just looking for good players now. And thanks for the vote of confidence Blue. I have no doubt we can get ES back.

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                            • #29
                              Re: What happened to ES?

                              Originally posted by mike View Post
                              ES is back open. Just looking for good players now. And thanks for the vote of confidence Blue. I have no doubt we can get ES back.
                              Without a doubt. What doesn't kill you only makes you stronger champ. You are a natural born leader Mikey. I have all the faith in the world for you and for ES. Good luck to you all. Everyone who stayed with ES and didn't run to AF the second things went wrong have my utmost respect. I'm proud of you all.
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