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  • #31
    Re: Baron is Broken - please address

    I see, so you were saying to use Baron for the challenges you'd suggest at least 600 energy. I thought it was more general advice. Thanks.
    Originally posted by Innocence
    150 FP for 1 LT is insane...You can get 6 LTS for the same price from crates, at least 1-2 guaranteed epics.

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    • #32
      Re: Baron is Broken - please address

      Originally posted by Ulysses View Post
      I see, so you were saying to use Baron for the challenges you'd suggest at least 600 energy. I thought it was more general advice. Thanks.
      Well as long as you got him at 3x he's fine... But when you start to have baron a 4x and 5x even regular jobs use like 100-300 energy

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      • #33
        Re: Baron is Broken - please address

        i don't really understand the 1% completion bonus. When I do a job on Area 4, 12 XP each with 5% completion, with Baron equipped which is 36XP each time, 15% completion, and the increment is 15%, 30%, 45%, 60%....
        than what is the 1% completion bonus ?

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        • #34
          Re: Baron is Broken - please address

          Originally posted by dummy View Post
          i don't really understand the 1% completion bonus. When I do a job on Area 4, 12 XP each with 5% completion, with Baron equipped which is 36XP each time, 15% completion, and the increment is 15%, 30%, 45%, 60%....
          than what is the 1% completion bonus ?

          Hey dummy... The 1% is a fraction it doesn't appear right away it appears over time example

          Say you get 5% while using him it'll look like this

          5%
          10%
          16%
          21%
          26%
          32%
          37%
          42%
          48%

          Hope this makes more sense to you

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          • #35
            Re: Baron is Broken - please address

            that would be also my expectation, but it seems doesn't actually.
            just like my case, Meatpack - Send a message, the completion increase actually by 15%, 30%, 45%, 60%, 75%, 90% with Baron equiped.
            and I realized if I complete the job with Baron to 100% (105% actually), I would spend more energy than I NOT using him.
            that's why i know somebody claim the energy comsumption with Baron is more sometimes.

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            • #36
              Re: Baron is Broken - please address

              Well if people used common sense and willing to take a couple extra seconds to unequip him. Early levels early stars you don't really notice his impact.. You really notice it at areas like Hong Kong

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              • #37
                Re: Baron is Broken - please address

                Originally posted by Voodoo jester View Post
                Well if people used common sense and willing to take a couple extra seconds to unequip him. Early levels early stars you don't really notice his impact.. You really notice it at areas like Hong Kong

                The quicker way to talk about Baron is that his ability isnt even close to acceptable for the rarity of his card. Seriously....he saves you two clicks?

                He has zero value, and his ability is more suitable for an Uncommon at the very most.

                Total junk, with a poorly thought out bonus that is nearly useless to almost every player in the game outside of collectors or the extremely lazy.

                Stop trying to put lipstick on a pig.

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                • #38
                  Re: Baron is Broken - please address

                  Originally posted by Mizzy View Post
                  The quicker way to talk about Baron is that his ability isnt even close to acceptable for the rarity of his card. Seriously....he saves you two clicks?

                  He has zero value, and his ability is more suitable for an Uncommon at the very most.

                  Total junk, with a poorly thought out bonus that is nearly useless to almost every player in the game outside of collectors or the extremely lazy.

                  Stop trying to put lipstick on a pig.
                  The only swine here is you, cause clearly you're not at a point to see just how valuable he is.

                  So please leave the conversation to the intelligent folks and go back to the forum of apes where you came

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                  • #39
                    Re: Baron is Broken - please address

                    Originally posted by Voodoo jester View Post
                    The only swine here is you, cause clearly you're not at a point to see just how valuable he is.

                    So please leave the conversation to the intelligent folks and go back to the forum of apes where you came

                    I know you are their number one nut hugger so it is totally pointless.

                    I just wanted to say it because I was tired of you trying to talk for the community. You represent 1% or less of the player base.

                    Baron is still bad, with a bad ability that isn't straightforward or noticeable enough to justify being placed on a epic card you must spend money to obtain.

                    It is poor design, and very convoluted.

                    You seem all in the know and stuff, so maybe some of these questions can be deflected by you since the Devs don't post on these forums.

                    Why is the bonus so hard to notice if it is so good?

                    If it is only for super high end players, why make it in the first place?
                    The level Requirement on the Annihilator Crate clearly isn't appropriate for the level required to make use of Baron.

                    If they make bonuses for Lt's why not make them fun?

                    What exactly is "fun" about saving a button click with absolutely no other clear benefit?

                    Why do so many LT's have lacklustre, unimaginative, copied or otherwise thoughtless bonuses? Specifically the UC, R and E cards?

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                    • #40
                      Re: Baron is Broken - please address

                      Originally posted by Mizzy View Post
                      I know you are their number one nut hugger so it is totally pointless.

                      I just wanted to say it because I was tired of you trying to talk for the community. You represent 1% or less of the player base.

                      Baron is still bad, with a bad ability that isn't straightforward or noticeable enough to justify being placed on a epic card you must spend money to obtain.

                      It is poor design, and very convoluted.

                      You seem all in the know and stuff, so maybe some of these questions can be deflected by you since the Devs don't post on these forums.

                      Why is the bonus so hard to notice if it is so good?

                      If it is only for super high end players, why make it in the first place?
                      The level Requirement on the Annihilator Crate clearly isn't appropriate for the level required to make use of Baron.

                      If they make bonuses for Lt's why not make them fun?

                      What exactly is "fun" about saving a button click with absolutely no other clear benefit?

                      Why do so many LT's have lacklustre, unimaginative, copied or otherwise thoughtless bonuses? Specifically the UC, R and E cards?
                      First off I don't speak or answer for the community, I speak for myself and share the knowledge I have..

                      It's not straight forward noticeable because idiots like you don't know how percent completion works.. (Pay attention I'm answering your first question despite it being answered already in previous pages)

                      Ok so each job has an unlisted required amount of energy for this example I will use 500 total required energy and 20energy required to do the job with a 1star Barron (3x and 1%)

                      So without Barron 20 energy out of 500 required is 4% so here's where Barron is tricky.. With baron the job requires 60 energy and you get 12% Barron's ability doesn't give bonus based off the % it does it based off the energy so instead of you getting credit for 60 energy you're getting credit for 60.6 energy which is 12.12% (pay attention this this is game balance 101) because of this and his scaling % bonus as well as the scaling energy x his ability needs to be set up this way. It would be ridiculously overpowered if the % bonus was scaled like duke and was based off the % completion and not energy use.

                      Barron isn't just intended for high level players it's just however it's just that higher level players are able to notice any actual benefit as they have the energy pools available to them

                      That covers all your "questions" except 1

                      Ok so lets take a look at your claims...

                      Common has a total of 21 lts 14 of them have different abilities

                      Uncommon has 21 also with 17 different abilities

                      Rare 16 with 15 different abilities

                      Epic 16 with 15 different abilities

                      How are they repetitive if so many out if each category are different? The abilities that are shared from different rarities can be bought with in game currency not fp..

                      4 common lts have the "same" ability plus attack.. But let's examine them a little closer to see how stupid you are

                      Ak
                      Spider
                      Saw
                      Manic

                      All give attack as their ability ak and spider give the same amount of attack from 1*-9* capping at 10 attack, so what's the difference then?

                      Their stats are different and spider can only be gotten from chest

                      Saw and manic both are chests only as well.. So again what's the difference?

                      Saw gives 9atk at 6* Manic gives 10 attack at 7* they have a higher boost because they come from a higher level crate. Saw has higher attack bonus than manic because his stats are slightly weaker than manic.

                      Do you use your brain before you say stupid stuff or do you consult someone else to pre-plan the stupidity for you like your dog or a psychic?

                      Please do the rest of the community a favor and delete your forum account. Your past few posts are so idiotic everyone who has read them is now dumber for having read them.
                      Last edited by Voodoo jester; 11-12-2013, 02:42 AM.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Baron is Broken - please address

                        Originally posted by Voodoo jester View Post
                        Response in progress please stand-by to be schooled troll
                        im waiting


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                        • #42
                          Re: Baron is Broken - please address

                          Originally posted by EpicNeoGreg View Post
                          im waiting
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                          • #43
                            Re: Baron is Broken - please address

                            Not that it will ever be address. At least not without a "screen shot" to make it more clear.

                            I finally got a 2 star Baron and now it works like it is suppose to. 1 Star baron never worked.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Baron is Broken - please address

                              Originally posted by Mizzy View Post
                              The quicker way to talk about Baron is that his ability isnt even close to acceptable for the rarity of his card. Seriously....he saves you two clicks?

                              He has zero value, and his ability is more suitable for an Uncommon at the very most.

                              Total junk, with a poorly thought out bonus that is nearly useless to almost every player in the game outside of collectors or the extremely lazy.

                              Stop trying to put lipstick on a pig.
                              I like him actually. He is the only Epic I've gotten from crate roles so I need to adore him lol.

                              He gives me more flexibility to be away from game and not wasting energy/stamina on level up. He did allow me to use stamina first, then see what I can do with the energy I've left before level up. I can do everything till I've only a few XPs to level up and then use up to 525 energy doing Italy dice job (I only open up to Italy dice job) which allows nearly 600 XP head start in next level.

                              Also in some job, his extra 1% helps. I am sure there are more, but I recall one job in Meatpack secret job area where without Baron the progress is 99% but with him, it's 100%.

                              I do hate it though, for most job, he has to be unseated at the end of the job completion or else you end up using more energy than without him.
                              Last edited by xdiin; 11-12-2013, 06:53 AM. Reason: correct typo

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                              • #45
                                Re: Baron is Broken - please address

                                [QUOTE=Raiden;58641]Not that it will ever be address. At least not without a "screen shot" to make it more clear.

                                Sorry quick edit. Did a quick test for xp gained as someone mentioned earlier that it's 3X experience as well:

                                Without Baron:
                                Energy Required: 11
                                Exp Gained: 13

                                With Baron:
                                Engery Required: 33
                                Exp Gained: 39

                                The exp gained is equal.
                                Last edited by Wildcard; 11-12-2013, 10:11 PM.

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