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  • Making EVE more competitive

    So for most empires there are 3-4 other empires where the win is determined by timeslot and who has two more actives. Most other wars are a blowout one way or the other.

    So how can we change that and make it more competitive? Interested to hear your ideas and hopefully devs will consider.

    1. First and foremost: no change I can think of would have a bigger impact when it comes to leveling the playing field and rewarding activity than making it so that sleeping players have no powers. That means no power to deflect, Turtle, dodge etcetera. Maybe double the amount of damage they take while we are at it. Rationale: how many people are good at dodging bullets while sleeping? Sleeping fighters are defenseless in real life, Mimic here. Doing so would dramatically favor the more active side and make the war between those who show up. Note that my empire has the biggest “meat shield’ in the game and this rule change would hurt us disproportionately but it would make UE better.

    2. Speed up tokens- cut the timer in half. Again this favors actives and makes it more exciting. Underdogs who are on time and have 60 active can and should beat a powerhouse with 20 active.

    3. More special attacks - the laser vs shield thing is a yawner, I don’t think anyone has used it but the idea is right - have some strategic �game changer’ tricks. Make the nuke nastier. Have some special attack that takes out one building to force teams to spread players out and not have 50 guys in one basement.

    there is little risk of an upset and hence people login to see the opponent and often blow it off as an unwinnable or I loseable war. Make it interesting. Right now AF can’t lose. Dream Team and LS would have to merge to win. Any top 20 matchup should have an element of uncertainty to it. Those of us in the top 5 empir s would welcome it as well I think - except for a very few who can’t ever handle losing 😱

  • #2
    Very good points.

    It would be good to receive some new side for EvE.
    I sometimes wonder if Ion Shield and Electrolaser would be more used if they would be maxed. Hmm, maybe a good ideea, on the next beta just set them to max level (without the need to upgrade, simply change the damage number) see if the people use them. Give us a glimpse to what it can be achieved with them.

    Lately I was thinking what if overall classification is based on total points in war. You win with 100 - 30, you get plus 70 points. You lose with 100 to 120, you get minus 20 points. Sure, it would not protect you from matching against top empires and lose in 5 minutes. But new strategies will appear, including eliminating non active members to not lose points in the leaderboard.


    • #3
      Personally I think the key will be to make activity more important than anything else. It makes the lower level players who can’t spend much significantly more valuable becaUse they can win by swarm against bigger stronger opponents with deeper pockets if they are on time and have a solid caller that everyone follows. What we want to get away from is the automatic outcomes - the top 25 should all have a chance against one another, even if it is 10-20% it will benefit all if we find ways to make strategy and activity more important. Thanks for listening - I wonder how hard it would be to turn off powers and up the damage taken for sleeping toons?


      • #4
        Shorten war time from 2 hr to 1 hr and up the speed of tokens by x2 (including Gunslinger’s ability)
        Offer actual rewards for EvE beyond the occasional crate shard. IE: top 10 empires get a special rare LT only obtainable from ending in the top 10. EvE wins in diamond give chance at rare shards on collect, EvE wins in legend give chance at rare and epic shards on collect.


        • #5
          Spot on, 1-3 has a good ring on it. I always dreamt of seeing 80 vs 80 actives on one war.

          The empire super that works like class super sounds nice too, modify the laser and ion shield to accomodate tactical need..

          ex: ten reapers loading some device will get some mass half impale stuff; ten enforcers will give one building and its defender guaranteed deflect for 1 shot. You get my idea..
          Last edited by tambunan; 09-06-2018, 09:03 AM.


          • #6
            Brilliant. 💯💯


            • #7
              Originally posted by Mobile Mob
              I would like to see 80 vs 80 actives as well.
              Increase Sara superpower contribution(double).
              Maybe if our empire can activate superpower more than ones a week it will help.
              I would like to try other superpowers as well!
              For example sniper tower
              the upgrades they have added lately have been geared towards getting empires to merge and/or people to move from low activity empires to higher activity.

              Doubling sara would go in the opposite direction. If you want a super more than once a week move to a bigger more active empire. Then guess what, your one step closer to 80v80.

              My empire we are usually 100% towards a super well before the current one finishes.

              Be the change you need.


              • #8
                1 hour wars!!!!!! That would force you to get in, get your tokes, get busy! All EvE’s are either over in 15 minutes, or dump your tokes to open, then come back in an hour, dumps the rest, then return again in 45mi utes to finish.

                1 hour timer, double speed tokes and packs. PLEASE!


                • #9
                  EvE is Perfect the way it is. Please don't change the rules of the game seeing as I build my toons according to the rules that were in place at the time.

                  people tend to only see things from their toons or empire point of view.

                  Littles don't think about bigs , and bigs don't think about littles


                  • #10
                    Good point. This is UE in a nutshell.

                    Originally posted by Kilolbs View Post

                    people tend to only see things from their toons or empire point of view.

                    Littles don't think about bigs , and bigs don't think about littles
                    You know how many suggestions on how to improve the game from various people's point of view i don't agree with it? Quite a few, lol. But rather than debate/argue... i leave the decision making to devs and hope they consider all options before they make a change to the game based on my or any other person's point of view.

                    A lot of in game suggestions have been better for the game though i must admit while some maybe not so much. Anyhow, lets hope Devs keep doing whats best for the game.
                    Last edited by chelsea; 09-23-2018, 06:18 PM.


                    • #11
                      Delete Gold League,give them all free created for their effort fأ¼r Lehrling building,and mit them all in Diamond/Platin League for more activity in that League.Allow Empire in Irgend only if they have min 50 member.Disable shields in Diamond/Platin die faster wars with more action,start war with 15 or 20 Token.


                      • #12
                        We first have to figure out why players don't bother to participate in EVE anymore.


                        • #13
                          Everyone is different.

                          Originally posted by Mobile Mob View Post
                          We first have to figure out why players don't bother to participate in EVE anymore.
                          I have never truly liked EvE and those that know me (old school players) can vouch for that. I participated heavily during the days of ES/UG and Chaos. Good times with Old school AF as well. Good times... The player base is not the same. Glad we have some of the true OG players still here playing and that's great for the game. New players are always welcome. My tolerance levels for drama/negative people in UE is low which makes EvE a no go for me in Legend leagues at the moment. Only care for Boss hunting or anything i can get Shiny from with minimal player interaction. That's just me. We are all different.

                          If Devs however offer tangible rewards in EvE and structure it in a tournament format that calculates player levels then I can assure you that i will be 1st in line to run to an Empire and be more competitive.
                          Last edited by chelsea; 10-18-2018, 10:28 PM.