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Do The Devs Hate Enforcers?!

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  • Do The Devs Hate Enforcers?!

    It seems like every event or new epic that is added seems to just be pointed towards snipers and sins, leaving demo out and completely messing enforcers. No other build is defence heavy, except for the enforcer. Snipers who get this ability will be able to beat enforcers even more than usual. And it's pretty much useless for enforcers and demo. To my count there's in my opinion 3 sniper/sin focused event lt including chopper (which are always the most powerful) and 1 event lt that's for enforcers and demo. The rest are all around. And with this new lt it will make it even harder for defence built accounts to be able to deal with any attack coming to them. Also makes investing sp in defence pretty much useless for all the high level defence builds that have 4k+ invested. Even if it's just 1% at 1* that's still a transition of 80 sp (40 taken and 40 given) which is 16 levels of sp. Just saying it feels like enforcers are always getting messed up and sins and snipers are always getting more and more over powered.
    Last edited by chelsea; 08-26-2015, 04:32 PM. Reason: language

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    Re: Do The Devs Hate Enforcers?!

    I can't speak for the Devs, but personally I hate Enforcers...

    Sincerely,
    A Sniper
    Last edited by Snake Eyes; 08-26-2015, 02:22 PM.
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    • #3
      This has got to stop. Yes, most of the new LTs favor attackers. But last I checked, Titans are some incredibly OP. Literally all your skills are insanely overpowered. In wars where we face a level 4/5 Titan, he sits there scratching, and we either all kill ourselves onto him while healing him or we have to work around his entire building just because of the Titan. So yes, LTs favors attackers while skills favor Titans. If I had to choose, I'd trade the LTs for your Class Skills any day.
      Last edited by chelsea; 08-26-2015, 02:57 PM. Reason: language
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      • #4
        Re: Do The Devs Hate Enforcers?!

        Originally posted by Snake Eyes View Post
        I can't speak for the Devs, but personally I hate Enforcers...

        Sincerely,
        A Sniper
        what he said

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        • #5
          Originally posted by s0fr3shh View Post
          This has got to stop. Yes, most of the new LTs favor attackers. But last I checked, Titans are some incredibly OP. Literally all your skills are insanely overpowered. In wars where we face a level 4/5 Titan, he sits there scratching, and we either all kill ourselves onto him while healing him or we have to work around his entire building just because of the Titan. So yes, LTs favors attackers while skills favor Titans. If I had to choose, I'd trade the LTs for your Class Skills any day.
          This ^^

          Originally posted by Snake Eyes View Post
          I can't speak for the Devs, but personally I hate Enforcers...

          Sincerely,
          A Sniper
          and This ^^

          I've played all classes except Enforcer (currently converting my mini to one) and no matter what class I played enforcers are always a nightmare. getting a 3K critical deflected back sucks. Getting deflected by a LSI battle rank 4 6 out 7 times is frustrating. Adaptation blocking 100-200 incoming damage, Turtle basically blocking up to 30-40% of incoming attacks regardless or situation.

          I will say I see your complaint but don't forget enforcer LTs such as Sophia, Tigress, Brutus, Chromium, Palladium, Centurion (really all classes but mostly used by enforcers), Malina, you could even through Edge into the mix too.

          Also there are defensive insignia just like there are attack.

          Keep in mind this is more of an attack oriented game. Defense is strategic and needed but if no one attacked where would the game go?
          Last edited by chelsea; 08-26-2015, 03:00 PM.

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            Re: Do The Devs Hate Enforcers?!

            It's pointless discussing this subject on here. It'll be a tit for tat.

            Hatred towards enforcers shouldn't cloud your thinking. There is favourism, an obvious one but as long as it suits the majority, that majority will continue to brush our thoughts aside.

            @sofresh
            You're obviously weaker than the defender if you avoid him. That's not a classes fault. I doubt you'd complain when your enforcer/Titan holds up your armoury. There are not that many GREAT skills in Titan. Ghost damage output will be unstoppable and stupidly overpowered but let's keep that quiet because that suits you.

            @ogre
            He's taking about attack/defence improving lts which are the game changer in any aspect of the game, not some chance blocking ability which is only suitable for EvE.

            The problem isn't deflect, the problem is your ridiculously strong shots nowadays. You've hit someone 600 levels lower and do 1000+ damage on a killing spree, get deflected a huge amount and think it's deflects fault, please.

            Turtles ability is there to stop ridiculous cripples and your overpowered hits. Vanquish, ghost skills and other aspects have increased the damage to a stupid amount.
            Justify someone considerably lower in levels doing 150-300, whilst dead, every time because of KS and/or vanquish/conduct combination.

            Insignias aren't worth mentioning. They even each other out. It was just a plot to get some money in.

            Where would you be if you can't keep a building up? Same place. That's why there needs to be impartial decision making when it comes to event lts power (in all honesty crates also).

            @stonesoul

            Make a valid point so we can discuss your feelings further.
            Last edited by Levap; 08-26-2015, 08:59 PM.
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            • #7
              Re: Do The Devs Hate Enforcers?!

              Originally posted by Ogre180 View Post
              I will say I see your complaint but don't forget enforcer LTs such as Sophia, Tigress, Brutus, Chromium, Palladium, Centurion (really all classes but mostly used by enforcers), Malina
              Sophia - You're going to use Irina's inferior counterpart to prove a point about defense?

              Tigress - Useless to high levels. That small defense boost is negligible.

              Brutus - Fine.

              Chromium - Enforcers already take the least counter damage. This helps all other classes more.

              Palladium - This is for XP. It doesn't affect anything else. All 4 base classes have this.

              Centurion - A small health boost, but fine.

              Malina - Awesome, now that sniper crit will only do 980 damage instead of 1000!

              You can't compare these LTs to the likes of Vanquish, Red Countess, and Chopper.

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                Re: Do The Devs Hate Enforcers?!

                I think Scythe is an amazing LT for enforcer. Especially high defense.

                Sit her and people who bounce will give you more health.

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                • #9
                  Re: Do The Devs Hate Enforcers?!

                  Suppress 3 hits on an enfo around 1/3 of the time when supposed to be 50%

                  Deflect hits with mathematically impossible regularity if in fact it was really 15%.

                  Goalies think the net is enormous, Snipers think deflect sucks, enforcers think Snipers are chicken doodoo. LOL. That's what makes it fun. I want an event LT who will come out and rip the shield off an enforcer who deflects me and bludgeon the enforcer to death with it... Enforcers probably won't vote for that one though.

                  lol

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                  • #10
                    Re: Do The Devs Hate Enforcers?!

                    It's just a classic arms race and while I want our enforcers strong and the opposition's to be weak - I can also understand the strong desire from part of the community for more LTs to help enforcers/defenders specifically. Why not? Let's get some more defense-oriented ones!
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                    • #11
                      Re: Do The Devs Hate Enforcers?!

                      My perception may be skewed but very very often it is a single jug enforcer with level 3 deflect and last stand holding a building for 30 minutes that wins the game. Don't cry too hard for enforcers - they win more games solo than any other class.

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                        Re: Do The Devs Hate Enforcers?!

                        Originally posted by CHFIII View Post
                        My perception may be skewed but very very often it is a single jug enforcer with level 3 deflect and last stand holding a building for 30 minutes that wins the game. Don't cry too hard for enforcers - they win more games solo than any other class.
                        That's the entire point of the class. To defend.

                        Have you noticed that the other 3 classes have defensive skills? Sniper has Barricaded and Invisible. Assassin has Cunning and Payback. Heavy has Bulletproof.

                        Enforcer does not have any offensive abilities. Knockout doesn't do any kind of extra damage, and is immediately removed even when a teammate hits the target.

                        Defending is all they can do. I don't really see a problem with what you stated.

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                          Re: Do The Devs Hate Enforcers?!

                          I have a love/hate relationship with enforcer & Titans....I love my teammates but hate facing yours.

                          We are a Top 10 team and I have seen our Sub 500 level enforcer absorb 500+ tokens against a quality team (Top 20).

                          It can make a score lopsided. I have also seen us get stymied by a lower level one too. The LTs out there and all the armor packs make it very tough to get a last stand down at times when they are taking armor properly.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Do The Devs Hate Enforcers?!

                            Not going to even read the post only read the title. Please just stop now Bc Titans are the best overall.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Do The Devs Hate Enforcers?!

                              Once you develop the Titan, it is the most amazing of the new classes.

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