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  • - Fusion & War Formula Breakdown -

    I saw a recent post and some other chatter about fusion being useless because when you turn in LTs for one to increase your dueling load out you are in turn weakening your war load out and makes fusing "useless"

    This is inaccurate.

    First of all we all know how dueling works. You take all 5 LTs in your inner circle with seat bonuses and your individual stats and BAAM duel power.

    HOWEVER the war formula seems
    to be one of the missing pieces of knowledge for many people.

    I will attempt to explain this great mystery. Please follow carefully.


    War Forumla:
    How warring works is you calculate how many allies YOU BRING TO WAR.... Not that you have in total.

    So lets say you have 1605 allies you war somebody you will take the standard 501 allies to war. If you have Sin equipped in your inner circle her power will kick in granting you to take more allies to war.

    Things to consider:
    - Level/Power of your allies means absolutely nothing
    - how many allies you have means nothing as long as you have over your max for war

    Example WAR FORMULA (we will use 501 allies in this example)

    OFFENSE:
    Take the total 501 and multiply by your personal characters attack stat lets say its 1000atk.

    501 * 1000atk = 501,000

    Then take the 501 again and times by your defense stat. Lets say its 1000. BUT if your attacking you only use 70% of this number.

    501 * 1000 def = 501,000 * 70% = 350,700

    THEN take both of those numbers and add them together

    501,000atk + 350,700def = 851,700 total attack power

    Now the next step if you wish to calculate it all is your LTs and gear. (The higher you level and the higher your atk/def becomes, the less relevant gear and LTs will become for war)

    Lets say you have 501 of each of the following:
    501x Eagle Eyes (18atk 15def)
    501x Lucky Strikes (12atk 6def)
    501x Golden Boys (15atk 15def)
    501x Bazookas (19atk 12def)
    501x G10s (20atk 20def)
    501x Business Man Suits (20atk 20def)

    Do some multiplication and addition and your total gear attack power will be: 52,104 and total defense 44,088 (70% used if on attack) 30,861

    Add them together

    52,104 + 30,861 = 82,965 total gear attack power

    Then add your LTs. Assuming you have 50x LTs at an average of 50atk 50def (for the sake of math) that's an additional 2,500atk and 2,500def (70% if attacking)

    Add together 2,500atk + 1,750def = 4,250 total LT attack power.

    NOW THE MOMENT OF TRUTH

    Add all 3 totals together

    Individual Character Attack Power:
    851,700

    +

    Total Gear Attack Power:
    82,965

    +

    Total LT attack power:
    4,250

    =

    Total War attack Power
    938,019

    So you see your individual stats when at 1000atk 1000def will make up for 90% of your total war power. LTs are only 1/2% of your total war attack power. Gear is 9.5% in this example.

    So you see when you lose a couple LTs because of a fusion, it won't matter nearly at all for a war.

    Wars are almost entirely based on your individual stats.

    Important Notes:
    - Sin is the single most important war LT GET HER
    - when on attack always use 70% of the total defense value.
    - when on defense always use 70% of the total offensive value.
    - in empire wars dueling is used, NOT warring
    - fuse away!

    Hope this sheds some light on this subject

    Love,
    Arch

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    Re: - Fusion & War Formula Breakdown -

    Bro.. I really appreciate all that you do.. You serve this community well but in light of PA lack of concern for the players.. Who cares anymore.. I've had enough of their BS and I know a lot have too..

    Listen to your players.. We pay your bills.. Without us you are nothing... Remember that!!

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    • #3
      Re: - Fusion & War Formula Breakdown -

      This clears up a lot of my unanswered questions. Thanks.

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      • #4
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        hmm nice..if your formula is correct, wow my total war attack....LOL

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        • #5
          Re: - Fusion & War Formula Breakdown -

          Originally posted by MDGF View Post
          hmm nice..if your formula is correct, wow my total war attack....LOL
          It is correct

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by ㄕĦⅈㄥ View Post
            Bro.. I really appreciate all that you do.. You serve this community well but in light of PA lack of concern for the players.. Who cares anymore.. I've had enough of their BS and I know a lot have too..

            Listen to your players.. We pay your bills.. Without us you are nothing... Remember that!!
            I hate having to feel negative also but I agree a lot. Thanks Arch for this, was an interesting read.
            I am not in danger, I AM THE DANGER!

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            • #7
              Re: - Fusion & War Formula Breakdown -

              Nice read arch. Thanks for a good post for a change.
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              • #8
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                Originally posted by Mist View Post
                Nice read arch. Thanks for a good post for a change.
                Your welcome! 👍👍

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                • #9
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                  Arch this is a fantastic post. I was going to Fuse my 1 star Sin out of existence. Not anymore. I will need to go back and rethink my fusion plan.

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                  • #10
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                    First time I think I have said this, but that you for an awesome post Arch. I never bothered to do all that math, so thanks. Moving this to the Strategy & Guides area where it belongs though.

                    "All I wants a hundred million dollars and a bad b...."
                    F R E E A G E N T

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                    • #11
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                      C'mon guys who actually tested it? The war formula???

                      I mean the devs NEVER directly answered repeated questions about war formula. There has always been doubts about whether or not the "eAtt • 501" part is true.... Just because more ppl "believe" and "swear" it's true doesn't necessarily make it true...

                      I remember ppl used to use 3 extreme alts to test the duel formula and found out it wasn't working "as intended"...... I'm sure u all know the duel formula had bugs at least twice in the past and screwed a lot of ppl... Until somebody show me the data, "eAtt • 501" will always b at best a myth...

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                        Re: - Fusion & War Formula Breakdown -

                        Originally posted by Hammer View Post
                        C'mon guys who actually tested it? The war formula???

                        I mean the devs NEVER directly answered repeated questions about war formula. There has always been doubts about whether or not the "eAtt • 501" part is true.... Just because more ppl "believe" and "swear" it's true doesn't necessarily make it true...

                        I remember ppl used to use 3 extreme alts to test the duel formula and found out it wasn't working "as intended"...... I'm sure u all know the duel formula had bugs at least twice in the past and screwed a lot of ppl... Until somebody show me the data, "eAtt • 501" will always b at best a myth...
                        It is 100% accurate. I did thorough thorough THOROUGH testing. Even writing it down and comparing when battling with 4-5 other people in my level range and the formula worked out to be perfect. We tested different loadouts and with and without Sin. All sorts of variables. Always worked

                        Although just like dueling there is a random LUCK attack/defense boost number that can kick it that has no mathematical validation and is at best random.

                        However the above formula is accurate and will work. Test it for yourself war a close friend. share screenshots of stats and LTs and just do the math yourself. Just plug in the numbers it works 9.5 times out of 10 until the weird luck kicks in.

                        The point of my post was to get rid of the myth. The formula works and is accurate if you don't believe me try yourself and post the screenshots of the results. I will put my left testicle on the table you can hold the cleaver if I am wrong swing fast and get it over with.. But I'm not 😜... It works 👍👍
                        Last edited by Archaic; 08-18-2013, 07:31 AM.

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                          Originally posted by Archaic View Post
                          It is 100% accurate. I did thorough thorough THOROUGH testing. Even writing it down and comparing when battling with 4-5 other people in my level range and the formula worked out to be perfect. We tested different loadouts and with and without Sin. All sorts of variables. Always worked

                          Although just like dueling there is a random LUCK attack/defense boost number that can kick it that has no mathematical validation and is at best random.

                          However the above formula is accurate and will work. Test it for yourself war a close friend. share screenshots of stats and LTs and just do the math yourself. Just plug in the numbers it works 9.5 times out of 10 until the weird luck kicks in.

                          The point of my post was to get rid of the myth. The formula works and is accurate if you don't believe me try yourself and post the screenshots of the results. I will put my left testicle on the table you can hold the cleaver if I am wrong swing fast and get it over with.. But I'm not 😜... It works 👍👍
                          What is your point in life? Or this game for that matter..... You have trolled, cheated, whined, narc'd, quit, returned, trolled some more. Just curious, do you have some personal vendetta against PA? Your word means absolutely nothing to anyone on these forums.... But I'm sure many people would love to chop your nuts off

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                          • #14
                            Re: - Fusion & War Formula Breakdown -

                            Nice Post Archaic

                            Never thought I would say that.

                            I love some of your split personas, not all of them
                            Last edited by Drachnyen; 08-18-2013, 05:30 PM.
                            Traitors will be hanged high, Dissidents will be sent to reeducation camps in Siberia, others will mostly just disappear.
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                            • #15
                              Re: - Fusion & War Formula Breakdown -

                              Nice job arch!

                              Good post, keep it up
                              "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
                              - Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

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