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  • Duel or Invade

    Sure was much easier figuring out whether to attack in Crime City. Everybody's 2 levels above me, but does a level 40 Hitman mean the same thing as a level 40 something else? How can I beat an Assassin one time and get beat by a Thug another time?

    Sometimes.

    Should I be using a cheat sheet?

    Then I tend to complicate the decision by introducing what's "fair" and what ain't. Like I tend toward dueling because I feel I should be battling mano-a-mano. Then I get pissed when I get my rear end handed to me.

    And I feel guilty when sicing 500 allies against 123.

    There has to be an easier way. How do you decide?
    F69C23
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    well.. i don't know many mobsters who fight fair ...though i do agree that dueling is somehow more satisfying lol.

    higher rank doesn't necessarily mean a tougher opponent, though you can usually get a very rough idea of how strong a player is in pvp by looking at their win/loss record in conjunction with their battle rank.

    here's a few things that i find are generally true.. lots of exceptions and gray areas

    many losses > softie
    many wins, low battle rank > hits mostly low ranked targets or loses lots of bp to attackers. probably soft
    low # of losses, high battle rank > probably decent pvp
    low battle rank, low # of wins and losses > probably slayer/questing build. not worth hitting.
    many wins, many losses > loses often, battles frequently to make up for losses in bp. fairly soft, probably
    HUGE number of losses for no apparent reason (10k+ and low or nonexistent battle rank) > throwaway account for bouncing off the player's main. probably soft

    it gets more complicated at higher levels because players have had more time to change their builds. And also because weaker builds will sometimes target players many levels lower in order to rank up quickly. but these guidelines (?) still apply, sort of

    if you can, try and remember the names from your battle page who bounce you, and don't try attacking them again until you've built up att and def some more. also, it might help to look at the formulae for duel and invade. if you haven't already that is

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    • #3
      Hawk, here's my two cents:

      1. For now, since I'm a job hound, I only attack my attackers.

      2. I always invade because I'm much stronger in a war than a duel. My view of fair is it should be my game strategy against yours. I will use my strength to attack ur weakness. And I expect u to do same.

      When I'm done opening my 5 chairs I will start pvp. At that time, I will have no qualms choosing targets that most assures my win. Ain't personal; it's business.

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      • #4
        2 perfectly acceptable suggestions.

        And your response, Anshin, satisfies my (unnecessary) qualms concerning fairplay. I mean, if someone attacks me without provocation I can justifiably return the attack by any means necessary.

        Thanks Friday and Anshin!
        F69C23
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Anshin View Post
          2. I always invade because I'm much stronger in a war than a duel. My view of fair is it should be my game strategy against yours. I will use my strength to attack ur weakness. And I expect u to do same.
          They will return the favor by beating you at dueling. I return the favor all the time. Just get a feel at dueling/invading at different War Rank levels. Check out the items and Lts. If they are comparable to yours, duel. If they have crate Lts., I would reconsider looking for another opponent unless you have them also. I don't so I have to move on to another target. I took a day off yesterday to duel solely. Lesson learned, don't pick on a 5 higher level person with a level 6 Johnny. LOL. Major favor spender.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sludgeboy View Post
            They will return the favor by beating you at dueling. I return the favor all the time. Just get a feel at dueling/invading at different War Rank levels. Check out the items and Lts. If they are comparable to yours, duel. If they have crate Lts., I would reconsider looking for another opponent unless you have them also. I don't so I have to move on to another target. I took a day off yesterday to duel solely. Lesson learned, don't pick on a 5 higher level person with a level 6 Johnny. LOL. Major favor spender.
            So if I understand you correctly, simply skimming thru the names, levels, and ranks on the Fight list is not enough.

            I have to actually do some work, huh?

            Makes sense though.

            (What a polite young man...found a very nice way to advise me to slow my roll...!)
            F69C23
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            • #7
              hawk just to simplify:-
              1) try for someone your own rank first.
              2) if going for higher rank check win loss ratio of player. If win is wayyyy more than loss, skip player.

              As for fair play. If this is a pvp game so win at any cost. If war works then war otherwise duel. I would generally prefer to get my allies up to the war limit then do the duel wins. Execution bonuses exist for a reason. Use them. Chain players if they give good bp. But if asked politely then stop. If not then just chain them on principle �� I prefer to chain people who have lost to me in news feed with lvl same or higher than me. Heck I have been chaining 6 people pvp 13 for four days. They haven't asked me to stop so I assume they don't mind. ;p
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              • #8
                Thanks Mist!
                (Dang-blast-it...I just may learn this game!")
                F69C23
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                • #9
                  Heh. Any time. U can try a free hit on me for testing purposes. But knee jerk response is warned about.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mist View Post
                    Heh. Any time. U can try a free hit on me for testing purposes. But knee jerk response is warned about.
                    I'll consider myself warned.
                    F69C23
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