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Vegas Heist 6/27/2017, 19:00 PDT

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  • #16
    Re: Vegas Heist 6/27/2017, 19:00 PDT

    a full lsi account can level a bunch of times during a day , they dont use refills but they refill when they level up to full capacity and if they have 4000 energy and up its not that hard to finish the heist

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    • #17
      Re: Vegas Heist 6/27/2017, 19:00 PDT

      Originally posted by TonkaTank View Post
      I currently have a little over 2,000 energy...
      There's your problem. 2k energy build is the absolute worst possible build for job heist. The energy costs on the jobs directly scale up with your maximum energy, up until 2k. After 2k, the costs still scale up but the cost increases start to become much smaller. That's why I was able to finish it with 5.4k energy without using a refill. I just get 100% completion in a job for about half my energy bar, get another 100% completion, and then finish levelling up by dumping my stamina on a boss. Rinse and repeat. Took me like an hour to completely finish the heist.

      My main would have had to burn through 20 refills to finish the heist. So I just did half the heist, finished building my heist epic crate (rolled a Baron) and I'm peacing out from spending on the heists now. Never spending on heists again.

      Basically I've accepted that heists are just a way for double/triple LSI minis to get free shards while mains need to spend $30+ for the same number of shards. I've expressed my concerns about this many times in the past because back in January the heists were originally being pushed as "mini events fair and balanced for everyone." They've improved the rewards but it seems they'll never fix the balancing so I guess the heists really weren't intended to be worth spending on for mains. Also just to clarify, I'm not complaining.

      So my advice is just make a super LSI mini for doing the heists and don't bother spending on your main. Save your money for the real events where you can get 2 epic crates, 2x event LT, 1 epic LT (5 epics total) and refills + crates for less than a VIP pack.
      Last edited by Bungboy; 06-28-2017, 11:50 PM.

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      • #18
        Re: Vegas Heist 6/27/2017, 19:00 PDT

        Originally posted by Babaju2 View Post
        There's your problem. 2k energy build is the absolute worst possible build for job heist. The energy costs on the jobs directly scale up with your maximum energy, up until 2k. After 2k, the costs still scale up but the cost increases start to become much smaller. That's why I was able to finish it with 5.4k energy without using a refill. I just get 100% completion in a job for about half my energy bar, get another 100% completion, and then finish levelling up by dumping my stamina on a boss. Rinse and repeat. Took me like an hour to completely finish the heist.

        My main would have had to burn through 20 refills to finish the heist. So I just did half the heist, finished building my heist epic crate (rolled a Baron) and I'm peacing out from spending on the heists now. Never spending on heists again.

        Basically I've accepted that heists are just a way for double/triple LSI minis to get free shards while mains need to spend $30+ for the same number of shards. I've expressed my concerns about this many times in the past because back in January the heists were originally being pushed as "mini events fair and balanced for everyone." They've improved the rewards but it seems they'll never fix the balancing so I guess the heists really weren't intended to be worth spending on for mains. Also just to clarify, I'm not complaining.

        So my advice is just make a super LSI mini for doing the heists and don't bother spending on your main. Save your money for the real events where you can get 2 epic crates, 2x event LT, 1 epic LT (5 epics total) and refills + crates for less than a VIP pack.

        Rock on... I've been playing this game for 3+ years and didn't realize it was a good idea to go over 2k energy and 1k stamina. Guess I need to read up a little bit more. Thank you for clarifying.

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        • #19
          Re: Vegas Heist 6/27/2017, 19:00 PDT

          My main will barely get through 4 jobs without spending, that's using the 4 e refills won from event (lvl930 - ~1200 energy)

          While a toon I started a few days ago (lvl60 / all SP to energy - ~500 energy) will finish no worries. No refills.

          Go figure.
          Last edited by frsh; 06-29-2017, 03:24 AM.

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          • #20
            Re: Vegas Heist 6/27/2017, 19:00 PDT

            Originally posted by TonkaTank View Post
            Rock on... I've been playing this game for 3+ years and didn't realize it was a good idea to go over 2k energy and 1k stamina. Guess I need to read up a little bit more. Thank you for clarifying.
            Depends on what u think is a good idea. If u keep on buying refills then it maybe isnt. Bought refills only get u 2k energy or 1k stam back. Uncapped refills are just the ones u won from scratchers/events/dailies. Nevertheless ur energy/stamina gets completely filled on levelup no matter how huge ur energy/stamina is.

            For Job heist u better get as much energy as u can. The cost of a Job depends on ur energy but it is capped at 2k energy. The jobs wont cost anymore then... and 5400 energy really helps then.

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            • #21
              Re: Vegas Heist 6/27/2017, 19:00 PDT

              These jobs seem to take about 3,000 energy each, so plan your approach to them accordingly.

              They give terrific cash. As I blasted through the half of it I've done, I think I might have gotten more than $150 million. Extra cash never hurts.

              Is there anything in UWE better than an epic crate roll?
              Just a bit analytical.

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              • #22
                Re: Vegas Heist 6/27/2017, 19:00 PDT

                Can someone who finished them tell us if there is any special item reward at the end?

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                • #23
                  Re: Vegas Heist 6/27/2017, 19:00 PDT

                  there isn't. Last one is an epic crate shard i think.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Vegas Heist 6/27/2017, 19:00 PDT

                    17/17 jobs done yesterday. 10 epic shards I believe + rare shards, mystery tokens and bunch of cash. No special reward, but many epics shards!

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                    • #25
                      Re: Vegas Heist 6/27/2017, 19:00 PDT

                      Originally posted by analytical View Post
                      These jobs seem to take about 3,000 energy each, so plan your approach to them accordingly.

                      They give terrific cash. As I blasted through the half of it I've done, I think I might have gotten more than $150 million. Extra cash never hurts.

                      Is there anything in UWE better than an epic crate roll?
                      Energy requirement for the jobs was scaling with your level and energy - capped at 2000 en if i'm not mistaken , means the people with the exact 2k en will had the hardest time i guess... as for me its always like 1 refill per 1-2 jobs (not leveling) for 2 low Hybrid builds level 500 and 900 and no to 3 or 4 refills used for my other 2 extreme builds. (As for refills it only used to bump the 2 hybrid lol)

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                      • #26
                        Re: Vegas Heist 6/27/2017, 19:00 PDT

                        Originally posted by Onur View Post
                        Can someone who finished them tell us if there is any special item reward at the end?
                        I think it is supposed to drop a Shadow Diamond when you complete the heist. It was working yesterday and I got it on my main, but nada after grinding through the whole thing tonight on my mini. 10 refills and no diamond.

                        Also can't contact support anymore from the faq/support or Feedback menu items on the More page. It gives a server error and then dumps you onto a faqs page in the forums. This is a little worrisome. At least in the past, you could send a message to customer support when there were issues.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Vegas Heist 6/27/2017, 19:00 PDT

                          Supposedly 2000 Energy is the cap for the energy cost in the heist, that doesn't seem to be entirely true. I'm not sure where the minimum is, but it may be around 500 energy. I think that the cost may linearly increase from 500 - 2000, and afterwards the cost increase lessens past 2000.

                          The Debut and Deliverance for example:

                          The Debut @ 215 Max Energy = 12 energy cost
                          The Debut @ 501 Max Energy = 12 energy cost
                          The Debut @ 2529 Max Energy = 50 energy cost
                          The Debut @ 3284 Max Energy = 57 energy cost

                          Deliverance @ 215 Max Energy = 15 energy cost
                          Deliverance @ 501 Max Energy = 15 energy cost
                          Deliverance @ 2529 Max Energy = 64 energy cost
                          Deliverance @ 3284 Max Energy = 74 energy cost


                          From 2529 to 3284 energy (755 difference), The Debut only increases 7 energy cost and Deliverance increases 10 cost.

                          755 / 7 = 107.857
                          755 / 10 = 75.5

                          At high energy ranges, it takes more energy for the cost to increase. Between 75.5~100 Maximum Energy per 1 energy cost increase based on this example, and should continue to lessen with more energy.


                          From 501 to 2529 energy (2028 difference), The Debut increased 38 and Deliverance increased 49.

                          2028 / 38 = 53.368
                          2028 / 49 = 41.388

                          From low energy ranges to high ranges (this is a big gap so likely inaccurate). Between 41~53 Maximum Energy per 1 energy cost increase based on this example.


                          The energy cost of these heist jobs definitely increase at a much faster rate at lower Max Energy amounts compared to high energy, seemingly double. Job heists favor LSI accounts much more.


                          The money earned is tied to the amount of energy spent. This heist earns $3,750 - $6,250 per energy spent.

                          Also there is no bonus item for completing the heist.

                          Item drop list: Wiki - Las Vegas Heist
                          Last edited by Ҝιττү; 06-30-2017, 06:35 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Vegas Heist 6/27/2017, 19:00 PDT

                            Originally posted by UWE_Duke View Post
                            ...
                            Rewards:
                            - There are several jobs in Vegas, and you must finish them one by one in order. then you will be rewarded for each job completed.
                            - You could find 10 Epic Crate Shards, 8 Rare Shards, 5 Crate Shards and 5 Mysterious Tokens in Vegas Heist.

                            GL!
                            I wonder, if we receive the same rewards or they will be reduced like last heist? 110fp for 2 epic shards is too much, IMHO))

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                            • #29
                              Re: Vegas Heist 6/27/2017, 19:00 PDT

                              Would be also nice, if devs consider splitters as rewards.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Vegas Heist 6/27/2017, 19:00 PDT

                                Originally posted by Mainevent View Post
                                Would be also nice, if devs consider splitters as rewards.
                                Yes, dilly dilly please

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