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New featured LT. (FINALLY) Poppy! Worth it or worth less? All input Welocome!

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  • #16
    Re: New featured LT. (FINALLY) Poppy! Worth it or worth less? All input Welocome

    Originally posted by Ndrewz View Post
    Does poppy work on supers?

    Does clone on poppy cost 8tk (2x2x2), or 6tk (2+2+2)?
    I believe tht it doesnt

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    • #17
      Re: New featured LT. (FINALLY) Poppy! Worth it or worth less? All input Welocome

      VIPER BOOST SEATED LT POWERS BY 10 percent!

      So technically that has to mean poppy's ability at 1* with Viper is + 111.1 . They put the figure as 101%. Theres no other way ard it. Cmon, tell me its the truthhhhh

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      • #18
        Re: New featured LT. (FINALLY) Poppy! Worth it or worth less? All input Welocome

        Originally posted by Battousai View Post
        VIPER BOOST SEATED LT POWERS BY 10 percent!
        So technically that has to mean poppy's ability at 1* with Viper is + 111.1 . They put the figure as 101%. Theres no other way ard it. Cmon, tell me its the truthhhhh
        It boosts 10% not add 10% otherwise would be OP.

        101+10% = 101 + 1.01 = 102.01.

        I have Viper and the only times I seat her is to boost all my idle LTs. I also seat her when doing my job LTs and when boosting an entire Critical Boss Loadout.

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        • #19
          Re: New featured LT. (FINALLY) Poppy! Worth it or worth less? All input Welocome

          Originally posted by Xcali1985 View Post
          It boosts 10% not add 10% otherwise would be OP.

          101+10% = 101 + 1.01 = 102.01.

          I have Viper and the only times I seat her is to boost all my idle LTs. I also seat her when doing my job LTs and when boosting an entire Critical Boss Loadout.
          I understand that it boost by 10% so if a lt ability says +5% critical chance. Then Viper gives you that boost and so the ability now becomes 5.5% critical chance.

          But on poppy, whats written on her ability is +101% and what is a boost from tht itself? It should be 101 x 1.1(100 percent plus the 10 percent viper boost gives you 1.1)

          Same as how 5% crit x 1.1 = 5.5

          I know tht it sounds OP on Poppy. That rhymes .hah. But it does on Red Countess too. So it is what it is

          Poppy's ability reads " attacks cost twice as much and deal + 101% damage"

          Again it is what it is. If you seperate tvat statement

          1) it takes twice the token
          2) it does + 101% damage.

          It is very simple english

          There is no way with viper it gives only 102.01% my friend. Because tht is one percent boost.

          Because a 101% boost with viper gives you 111.1%

          Basically, i see this as a loophole. I may be wrong. Pls enlighten me.

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          • #20
            Re: New featured LT. (FINALLY) Poppy! Worth it or worth less? All input Welocome

            Originally posted by Battousai View Post
            I understand that it boost by 10% so if a lt ability says +5% critical chance. Then Viper gives you that boost and so the ability now becomes 5.5% critical chance.

            But on poppy, whats written on her ability is +101% and what is a boost from tht itself? It should be 101 x 1.1(100 percent plus the 10 percent viper boost gives you 1.1)

            Same as how 5% crit x 1.1 = 5.5

            I know tht it sounds OP on Poppy. That rhymes .hah. But it does on Red Countess too. So it is what it is

            Poppy's ability reads " attacks cost twice as much and deal + 101% damage"

            Again it is what it is. If you seperate tvat statement

            1) it takes twice the token
            2) it does + 101% damage.

            It is very simple english

            There is no way with viper it gives only 102.01% my friend. Because tht is one percent boost.

            Because a 101% boost with viper gives you 111.1%

            Basically, i see this as a loophole. I may be wrong. Pls enlighten me.
            Poppy's boost is only 1%, the extra 100% comes from the 2nd token/stamina. When you use 1* Poppy you do 201% damage per click. So Viper would boost only the 1%.
            Last edited by alexian; 10-16-2016, 08:13 AM.
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            • #21
              Re: New featured LT. (FINALLY) Poppy! Worth it or worth less? All input Welocome

              Originally posted by Reaper9292 View Post
              what the damage boost u gain from envy while copying dozer?..isnt the damage boost u gain from poppy higher?.
              im using layla dozer gman backfire and fiori and was waiting for a demo lt to replace fiori and soon as i get poppy i will replace it.
              Technically poppy's damage gain is mainly just from double tokens. I was copying backfire but as soon as your demoing for more than 100+ then copying dozer for % gain increases continually. For dealing with healers I created a second demo loadout removing backfire and subbing in poppy.
              I have 3 spare demo toons with these loadouts, and all 3 are at 1000 att 1300 def and hit from 130-160 buildings and 150-210 shields. And as I star up the LTs and keep going higher in stats the damage will just keep increasing.


              Originally posted by Scarlito View Post
              I have Gman and his smg stacked 4 times. How does he help in demo? I was under the impression his peircing damage would eat through more armor or break through armor to dmg hp instead of ap. Maybe I have peircing damage all wrong lol. Clearing that up would def help me know where to seat him. I'm close to grenade 3 on my term with him so he will be up their with a Hw maxed demo soon when demoing shields and buildings.
              From what I understand piercing damage is extra damage that can't be reduced by class or LT skills. I may be wrong but I thought I read that somewhere.

              As for the Layla conundrum your in😁 even though poppy uses double tokens it only counts as 1 win meaning Layla has less chances to work based on tokens spent. All of this is just my opinion though. I could be completely wrong.

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              • #22
                Re: New featured LT. (FINALLY) Poppy! Worth it or worth less? All input Welocome

                Don't think this lt works with envy/vice/rc

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                • #23
                  Re: New featured LT. (FINALLY) Poppy! Worth it or worth less? All input Welocome

                  Originally posted by 93Tucker View Post
                  Don't think this lt works with envy/vice/rc
                  Maybe only the dmg gets increased? Though you can use envy or vice better.
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                  • #24
                    Re: New featured LT. (FINALLY) Poppy! Worth it or worth less? All input Welocome

                    Originally posted by Massmurder View Post
                    I have 3 spare demo toons with these loadouts, and all 3 are at 1000 att 1300 def and hit from 130-160 buildings and 150-210 shields.
                    How much!!!! Are they heavy or term?

                    Have a mainly attack only (2250) and only manage around 120-125 on buildings, same on shields. 4*dozer and 7*backfire.

                    Demo damage hasnt really gone up in the last few 100 levels.

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                    • #25
                      Re: New featured LT. (FINALLY) Poppy! Worth it or worth less? All input Welocome

                      Originally posted by Mercurial View Post
                      How much!!!! Are they heavy or term?

                      Have a mainly attack only (2250) and only manage around 120-125 on buildings, same on shields. 4*dozer and 7*backfire.

                      Demo damage hasnt really gone up in the last few 100 levels.
                      All 3 terms now, when heavy was an average 110-130 depending on building. I was quite surprised myself after switching to term and maxing grenade. Each has a 4*dozer(2*envy), 2*gman, 6*backfire and 3*Layla for extra tokens if not in a hurry(1*poppy for dropping faster)

                      I have another demo that I spend sometimes on, no bonus damage LTs just Layla and hits buildings 140-180, shields 170-210 and has 3100att500def

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                      • #26
                        Re: New featured LT. (FINALLY) Poppy! Worth it or worth less? All input Welocome

                        Originally posted by Massmurder View Post
                        All 3 terms now, when heavy was an average 110-130 depending on building. I was quite surprised myself after switching to term and maxing grenade. Each has a 4*dozer(2*envy), 2*gman, 6*backfire and 3*Layla for extra tokens if not in a hurry(1*poppy for dropping faster)

                        I have another demo that I spend sometimes on, no bonus damage LTs just Layla and hits buildings 140-180, shields 170-210 and has 3100att500def
                        a 2* envy copying a 4* dozer gives 23% of 5%=1.15% damage boost to building/shield .while a 2* poppy gives 1.5% damage increase . so why would u use envy before poppy? is the 1.15% damage to building/shield higher a 1.5% just "damage" boost?.
                        i think u should just use poppy , envy isnt that good when copying lts for critical and lts for damage while u have other lts that give damage...she more worthy copy an ability like laylas joaquin gunslinger illusionist crimson phantom or so ..

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                        • #27
                          Re: New featured LT. (FINALLY) Poppy! Worth it or worth less? All input Welocome

                          Originally posted by Reaper9292 View Post
                          a 2* envy copying a 4* dozer gives 23% of 5%=1.15% damage boost to building/shield .while a 2* poppy gives 1.5% damage increase . so why would u use envy before poppy? is the 1.15% damage to building/shield higher a 1.5% just "damage" boost?.
                          i think u should just use poppy , envy isnt that good when copying lts for critical and lts for damage while u have other lts that give damage...she more worthy copy an ability like laylas joaquin gunslinger illusionist crimson phantom or so ..
                          But the 1.5% poppy damage is based on 2 tokens used so 1.5/2=.75% damage, and I've only got poppy at 1* so it's not even that much..but mainly it's for maximising Layla's chance to use her ability. If speed is needed I have a 2nd loadout with Layla removed and poppy in.

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                          • #28
                            Re: New featured LT. (FINALLY) Poppy! Worth it or worth less? All input Welocome

                            Piercing damage is extra damage cant be reduced by reinforced steel, or damage mitigation of any form.

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                            • #29
                              Re: New featured LT. (FINALLY) Poppy! Worth it or worth less? All input Welocome

                              Originally posted by Massmurder View Post
                              But the 1.5% poppy damage is based on 2 tokens used so 1.5/2=.75% damage, and I've only got poppy at 1* so it's not even that much..but mainly it's for maximising Layla's chance to use her ability. If speed is needed I have a 2nd loadout with Layla removed and poppy in.
                              ohh ur right i missed that .as u said "poppy for speed kill " then

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                              • #30
                                Re: New featured LT. (FINALLY) Poppy! Worth it or worth less? All input Welocome

                                This is a great lt for those looking for a duke/rc type lt. I will most likely 9 star her because I can't land duke after years of trying and just missed out on a chance for rc. My only con for this lt is that it is way under powered at 9 stars for an uncommon lt. a 1 star rc is stronger in ability than this at 9 stars. Was hoping for at least a 2-3 star equivalent. Taking the eg of envy and malina. Both good options for the equivalent event lt those missed out on.
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